Mi- Ankh being a wolf encouraging his stupidity has the potential to be an answer for it, and I hadn't thought of that. Considering how stupid he is, though... mi- [this mi does not express confidence]
Lambda says that she voted to put Kokonoe and Mayumi up to vote, and moving it would have guaranteed I went up. Considering I'm fairly sure I remember seeing my vote dip below those too, before Kokonoe voted and evened it up, I can believe that. But my memory's fuzzy by now.
Has he said anything that is in some way remarkable?
If that's what Lambda said, I'm also willing to believe that she's being perfectly truthful in that context. It does match up. I still don't like the fact that Mayumi got piled on, but she has an excuse there.
Well, there's this:
velocivector 2011-11-06 03:13 pm (local) I don't think you're a wolf.
I think Rika has a solid defense, and most of Kokonoe's so-called defenses are flimsy at best and easily countered. Kokonoe's attempts at nitpicking Rika's defenses suck, quite frankly. On top of that, I was talking to Klavier last night since the clue came out. He told me to suspect Kokonoe if he got eaten. He had been talking to her privately; it was their exchange that made him feel he would get taken out quickly for knowing too much and being a prosecutor.
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downbeating 2011-11-06 03:14 pm (local) Good.
Yeah, I heard their conversation with each other. Kokonoe doesn't really have anything to back her up. I can see how that works out.
I'm pasting this because I'm not sure why he went from that, to his idiocy with you in both posts. I'm going to ask him about that. After the above, he asked me about Klavier and Kokonoe, which I told you before:
velocivector 2011-11-06 03:53 pm (local) I didn't ask for too many details. All I know is that they discussed possible eating choices, and he probably drilled her for info on Hazama.
I believe you, but I think you need to pad your defense with something stronger, that's harder to counter. The scene you caused the first day with Hatter and Hino was extremely attention-getting. It would be very risky for a wolf to try that, and I don't think you have the personality for deliberately doing that on purpose just to make yourself look more sheeplike. The wolves have a special post to plot in; I think if you were a wolf, you'd have already had reality knocked into you long beforehand. As a sheep, you probably thought that you could ignore things until people started dying or you ended up in a clue. That's when you snapped.
There doesn't seem to be much that your voting so far can say in terms of adding to your defense, but perhaps your refusal to vote on Mayumi who is now seen as someone who wouldn't have made a very plausible wolf anyway is worth mentioning.
That's all I can think of in terms of specifically defending yourself. You make an effort to be a good, thoughtful sheep. The biggest problem is that as suspicious as Lambdadelta is looking now, she's very smart. The best way to take her down is picking apart her defenses until they collapse from their own weakness.
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downbeating 2011-11-06 03:56 pm (local) Right, that makes more sense than what I was going for. And I voted for her because she didn't seem like a wolf. Her actions were based on her emotions and it showed. She didn't have it in her to accuse anyone either.
Yeah, I pretty much knew that about her already. She's smart. Smarter than me, probably.
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velocivector 2011-11-06 04:02 pm (local) Just make sure you don't come off like you're attacking her. Keep it to things like questioning suspicious things she's said, and wait till you're asked about your opinion of her to bring up the topic. Kokonoe is a prime example of doing it wrong.
And just earlier I told him it looks like people seriously suspect him. He said it was his own fault.
velocivector 2011-11-07 05:20 pm (local) Do you mind if I ask your thoughts on Ankh and myself?
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downbeating 2011-11-07 05:21 pm (local) I think Ankh is a wolf. He's dead set on making you out to be suspicious to me. Says you're experienced and smart, like that's enough to make you a wolf. Something about Rika, too. But as far as I know, you've only been helpful to the cause.
Does this match up with what he's been telling you? I saw you're talking to him.
Since then, I've asked him about you. He said picking the fight with you had everything to do with disliking the way you seemed to be controlling things, like a game guy he knows. You'll also remember that during the drinking game he took a drink for starting fights without reason. The guy's a delinquent and a lot of times he doesn't think things through. This would explain why he acted so stupid last night.
So what do you wanna do with this ousting? Ankh will probably vote on Kiyama, we can't count on Hazama to vote, and I know you want to be thorough before you risk voting out your friend.
I think Kiyama's a lot more suspicious, honestly. [shrugs] It's possible that I'm wrong, but... I don't think Lambda would choose to lie to me that well in a kill game where she wants to kill the person running it, and even if the explanation for his stupidity is stupidity, it's still suspicious.
Well, I'm probably gonna vote on Lambdadelta because I've known a lot of really stupid delinquents with attitude problems, most of them being idiots who thought it wise to try picking a fight with me. But I think both of them should be questioned in public thoroughly. Does that sound fair?
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Lambda says that she voted to put Kokonoe and Mayumi up to vote, and moving it would have guaranteed I went up. Considering I'm fairly sure I remember seeing my vote dip below those too, before Kokonoe voted and evened it up, I can believe that. But my memory's fuzzy by now.
Has he said anything that is in some way remarkable?
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Well, there's this:
velocivector
2011-11-06 03:13 pm (local)
I don't think you're a wolf.
I think Rika has a solid defense, and most of Kokonoe's so-called defenses are flimsy at best and easily countered. Kokonoe's attempts at nitpicking Rika's defenses suck, quite frankly. On top of that, I was talking to Klavier last night since the clue came out. He told me to suspect Kokonoe if he got eaten. He had been talking to her privately; it was their exchange that made him feel he would get taken out quickly for knowing too much and being a prosecutor.
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downbeating
2011-11-06 03:14 pm (local)
Good.
Yeah, I heard their conversation with each other. Kokonoe doesn't really have anything to back her up. I can see how that works out.
I'm pasting this because I'm not sure why he went from that, to his idiocy with you in both posts. I'm going to ask him about that. After the above, he asked me about Klavier and Kokonoe, which I told you before:
velocivector
2011-11-06 03:53 pm (local)
I didn't ask for too many details. All I know is that they discussed possible eating choices, and he probably drilled her for info on Hazama.
I believe you, but I think you need to pad your defense with something stronger, that's harder to counter. The scene you caused the first day with Hatter and Hino was extremely attention-getting. It would be very risky for a wolf to try that, and I don't think you have the personality for deliberately doing that on purpose just to make yourself look more sheeplike. The wolves have a special post to plot in; I think if you were a wolf, you'd have already had reality knocked into you long beforehand. As a sheep, you probably thought that you could ignore things until people started dying or you ended up in a clue. That's when you snapped.
There doesn't seem to be much that your voting so far can say in terms of adding to your defense, but perhaps your refusal to vote on Mayumi who is now seen as someone who wouldn't have made a very plausible wolf anyway is worth mentioning.
That's all I can think of in terms of specifically defending yourself. You make an effort to be a good, thoughtful sheep. The biggest problem is that as suspicious as Lambdadelta is looking now, she's very smart. The best way to take her down is picking apart her defenses until they collapse from their own weakness.
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downbeating
2011-11-06 03:56 pm (local)
Right, that makes more sense than what I was going for. And I voted for her because she didn't seem like a wolf. Her actions were based on her emotions and it showed. She didn't have it in her to accuse anyone either.
Yeah, I pretty much knew that about her already. She's smart. Smarter than me, probably.
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velocivector
2011-11-06 04:02 pm (local)
Just make sure you don't come off like you're attacking her. Keep it to things like questioning suspicious things she's said, and wait till you're asked about your opinion of her to bring up the topic. Kokonoe is a prime example of doing it wrong.
And just earlier I told him it looks like people seriously suspect him. He said it was his own fault.
velocivector
2011-11-07 05:20 pm (local)
Do you mind if I ask your thoughts on Ankh and myself?
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downbeating
2011-11-07 05:21 pm (local)
I think Ankh is a wolf. He's dead set on making you out to be suspicious to me. Says you're experienced and smart, like that's enough to make you a wolf. Something about Rika, too. But as far as I know, you've only been helpful to the cause.
Does this match up with what he's been telling you? I saw you're talking to him.
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Also, he only trusts you and me.
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Mmm. Mostly? He seems smarter when talking to you.
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And I'm sorry if I turn out to be wrong, if your friend has to die, or anything else I end up having to be sorry for.
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